Oh smelly feet, u need 2 go wash your smelly feet [I can smell those bad boys from where I am!] and stop bad mouthing Jon Voight! Get off the computer, stop bad mouthing Jon Voight & wash your smelly feet! Yuck! LMAO
Tuesday August 29, 2006
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Jon Voight has been trying to reach out to estranged daughter **Angelina Jolie** these last few months by making public appeals requesting to see his grandchildren. So it's all the more unfortunate that he totally messed up an on-camera red carpet shout out to granddaughter Zahara last week, mistaking the one-and-a-half-year-old for a 29-year-old singer whose hips don't lie.
TMZ has the video from the BAFTA Tea Party on August 26, honoring Emmy Award nominees, but here's the crux of the awkwardness:
Voight: "Maddox just had a birthday. Happy birthday, Maddox! 5 years old--it's a big one! You're getting to be a young man, and I send my love to you. And send my love to...uh...Shakira...and...Shahira... [To reporter] Is it Shakira or Shahira?"
Reporter: "Zahara."
Voight: "Shahara! Shahara!"
This isn't likely to have Angie climbing out of her Range Rover and into his arms anytime soon, but Voight shouldn't feel too bad. Everyone knows adopted children don't count anyway.
Talk to Us: Should Voight keep pushing to see the grandkids in press interviews?
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I think VOIGHT is stupid and dumb and Voight if u hear this IT'S ZAHARA!She's not my grandkid and I know her name!
What do they mean adopted kids don't count?I adopted 8!And Voight I h8 him He should learns grandkid's names!
I always loved Jon Voight as an actor but when he told the truth about his big-lipped and crazy skank daughter I've loved him a million times more!!!!
VOIGHT FOR PRESIDENT - 2008!!!!!
It was wrong of him to speak poorly of his daughter in public but Angelina should forgive him. He has apoligzed and seems to be making a genuine effort to reconciled.
I would hope that he would continue to try to see his grandchildren. They can't help that their Mom is an idiot and a mental case. I think it would be funny if he forgot Angelinas name though.
If you read the transcript; even after the reporter CORRECTED him and said her name is Zahara, Jon Voight STILL called her “Shaharaâ€. That shows that he knows her name but intentionally mispronounces it. He’s not “forgetful†or on the brink of having Alzheimers, but he’s simply a hateful old man.
I am appauled to read "adopted children don't matter any way!!
How irresponsible... and, down right stupid!!
Children -- adopted, biological, test tube... whatever --ALL MATTER!!
Perhaps the reporter was rejected by an agency to be a fit adoptive parent and they are just taking it out in print.
Luckily for us readers -- we are not idiots and don't accept that kind of moronic, lazy writing...
AN APOLOGY IS OWED TO ALL ADOPTEES.
Angelina, should do some real soul searching. She needs to forgive and resolve her issues with her father while he is still living.Life is too short.
Shame on you us weekly writers...it seems that you guys are the ones to put your feet in your mouths time and time again...that last sentence about adoptive children not mattering is an extremely tasteless joke that many would not find to be funny..
LI, you said you don't want to sound racist but thats exactly how you sound! I thought that love was the main thing. I bet that the she is way better off with a (white chick) then where she was.
Don't worry Ll - I'm sure the nanny that "really" raises her will be African...
i personally dont think white people should be adopting black babies
only nlack couples should be allowed to that, not to sound racist but i myself being of african american decent think that there is a lot of customs and just plain different ways of thinking that a white chick cant teach a black child
OMG how emabarassing...
7:38 pm F@KE Says:
“10:09 am Natalie Says:
Ok, so even if Jon Voight was a crappy dad HOW MANY YEARS AGO…â€
(and to those saying he can change)
It was less than 4 years ago that he was STILL verbally abusing her. Not much change there.
Being a blood relative does not give you a right to see a child. That’d be like my father who I do not know at all showing up wanting a relationship should I ever have children. Or another pissant sperm donor I know who repeatedly dropped in and out of his child’s life for the first 12 years and then completely ignoring him afterward suddenly showing up and wanting a relationship. If Ted Bundy had not been executed should he have been allowed around his possible grandchildren? Or Joe Blow down the street who beat up on Grandma every week? Saying she should reconcile is naive and or ignorant. It is one thing to sit here and judge celebs as we all do, it is another to presume to know anything about this father/daughter relationship. Being a father does not mean being a good person. Mental abuse is the worst kind. Why should she take that chance with her children? She was a mother already when he was abusing her last time! All of a sudden there is a biological child and he changes? Well, that would be too late for me also. You accept ALL children, blood or not.
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F@ke, I haven't blogged with you since the Heather Mills-McCartney and Paul McCartney mess. How have you been? I don't get to blog as often as I'd like.
[Extended Sigh].........
Now F@ke,
I realize that you have the right to disagree with those of us who feel that Angelina should make amends with her father for the sake of her children, but to use TED BUNDY to prove your point is really laughable!
I think that your point was that if Ted Bundy were alive (a man who admitted to murdering 40 young women, some as young as 12 years old!) no one would think twice about allowing him to see his grandchildren. In fact, no one in their right mind would allow him to do so! Your point is well-taken because I agree with it...but correct me if I'm wrong, did Jon Voight ever admit to kidnapping and murdering anyone? How did I miss that?
I also agree that just because a person is blood this doesn't automatically mean that they should spend time with children....especially if they pose a REAL threat (i.e., physical, emotional, psychological, spiritual) to them.
I do understand and agree with your point that verbal and emotional abuse is as psychologically harmful as physical abuse, but to compare verbal and emotional abuse against the actions of a "serial killer" is like comparing an apple and a car (instead of apples and oranges), don't you think? Really, a person who has sustained any type of abuse at least has hope for healing, while a victim of a serial killer no longer has any hope left, right?
And I still stand by my professional opinion that Jon Voight may have changed. You are looking at change from the perspective of "Well, he's still doing it, so he hasn't changed!" I'm looking at change from the perspective of "Has there been a DECREASE in the incidences of emotional and/or verbal abuse?" If this is in fact the case, I would argue that change, albeit small, has been made.
Furthermore, I also find this word "abuse" to be quite subjective. Let's face it. What some people consider "abusive parenting" others consider "tough love!" It's all a matter of perspective, really. I've heard some people say "My parents beat me whenever I did something wrong and I haven't spoken to them in years!" Yet other people will say "My parents beat me whenever I did something wrong and I thank them for that because God knows what might have happened to me if they weren't so tough with me!" Again, all perspective. The same goes with emotional/verbal abuse, as well.
But F@ke, whether you agree with anything that I said in my earlier post or not, you must admit that there is a CHANCE that Angelina's kids may grow up to dislike her because she has deliberately distanced them from Jon, THEIR grandfather.
Like I said earlier, when you reach adulthood, those childhood years are gone forever, and this may make it especially difficult for Angelina's kids to forgive her for her current actions toward Jon. Of course, they may also grow up to feel that Jon is a bonafide S.O.B., but then again, there is a CHANCE that they may not and may deliberately seek to develop a relationship with Jon on their own.
F@ke, you also must admit that people are NOT born behaving the way that they do. And I would still say that Jon Voight acts the way that he does BECAUSE, in all likelihood, his father acted the same way toward him, and his father acted the same way toward him, and on and on. This is WHY I am such a fan of Family Therapy because when the entire family is in therapy together they can all understand WHY they behave the way that they do, understand HOW their actions have hurt those closest to them, as well as HOW they can move together, as a family, in a state of healing.
JOLIE HAS CLASS. BECAUSE SHE HANDLES HER FATHER’S ANGER PRIVATELY WELL. IT’S NOT OTHER PEOPLE’S RIGHT TO STICK THEIR NOSES IN HER FAMILY BUSINESS.
THIS ISSUE SHOULD BE HANDLED PRIVATELY AND NOT IN THE PRESS, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE JEALOUS OF HER. THEY TWIST THINGS AROUND WITH ANY THING SHE DOES.
PEOPLE SOMETIMES GETS MAD AT THEIR PARENTS & REFUSE TO SEE THEM, IT’S NORMAL.
HER FATHER HAS CONTINUED TO TRASH HER IN THE PRESS, NOT TO MENTION HE ABANDONED HER FOR ANOTHER WOMAN WHEN SHE WAS VERY LITTLE. JOLIE MAKES IT ON HER OWN, HE SHOULD BE PROUD OF HER AND STOP HURTING HER.
WHETHER JOLIE FORGIVES HER FATHER OR NOT, NOBODY CARES & IT’S HER PERSONAL BUSINESS. IT DOES NOT AFFECTING YOU AND ME. KEEP YOUR DAMN NOSE OUT OF IT.
JOLIE IS AFRAID OF ANY OUTRAGEOUS STATEMENTS THAT HE MAY MAKE AT ANY TIME.
HER FATHER IS LIKE A TIME BOMB TICKING AND JUST WAITING TO GO OFF IF HE DOES NOT GET WHAT HE WANTS.
Apparently booting up won't be so easy since he without hessitance booted up out of Angie's life and her mom's life when she was only a kid. That's enough to have a person mad and unforgiving to the unfaithful parent. Angie is most likely miserable over the fact that now, he wants her forgiveness after all of the pain he's put her through. I read somewhere that he and her mom Kathleen Bertrand had a VERY BITTER divorce in the 1970s.
Again, he puts his foot in his mouth! Why don't he shut up and boot up?
Yeah, he needs to learn the kids',.....well, Zahara's name. Funny he thinks of 'Shakira', but not 'Zahara'.
IF JON CAN'T GET THROUGH TO ANGELINA BY HIMSELF, THEN YES I WOULD USE THE PRESS INTERVIEWS.WHAT EVER WORKS RIGHT? AND IF I WERE JON I'D KEEP AT IT TOO. IF I WERE ANGELINA AND I DIDN'T GET ALONG WITH MY FATHER, I'D STILL LET MY KIDS SEE HIM AT LEAST. ITS THE ONLY RIGHT THING TO DO. AND IF I WERE JON I WOULD STILL TRY TO MAKE PEACE WITH HER AND NOT GIVE UP. I HOPE EVERYTHING WORKS OUT FOR THE BOTH OF THEM.
"10:09 am Natalie Says:
Ok, so even if Jon Voight was a crappy dad HOW MANY YEARS AGO…"
(and to those saying he can change)
It was less than 4 years ago that he was STILL verbally abusing her. Not much change there.
Being a blood relative does not give you a right to see a child. That'd be like my father who I do not know at all showing up wanting a relationship should I ever have children. Or another pissant sperm donor I know who repeatedly dropped in and out of his child's life for the first 12 years and then completely ignoring him afterward suddenly showing up and wanting a relationship. If Ted Bundy had not been executed should he have been allowed around his possible grandchildren? Or Joe Blow down the street who beat up on Grandma every week? Saying she should reconcile is naive and or ignorant. It is one thing to sit here and judge celebs as we all do, it is another to presume to know anything about this father/daughter relationship. Being a father does not mean being a good person. Mental abuse is the worst kind. Why should she take that chance with her children? She was a mother already when he was abusing her last time! All of a sudden there is a biological child and he changes? Well, that would be too late for me also. You accept ALL children, blood or not.
Michelle,
Apparently you really can't read. The writer was sticking up for adopted children. Get it? Irony! He was calling J.V. an idiot. Oh, and speaking of idiots? I'm not one. But your a poopy pants and a dumb dumb head. (Thought I would bring it down to your level.)
hahaha, that's just too funny!
I think Angie is doing everything right.And if her father wants her to forgive he should learn her kid's names first.
Whatever he did to his daughter must have been pretty bad to be this estranged from her......
12:38 pm terisa Says:
WE SHOULD ALL CALL JON VOIGHT “DICKâ€, BUT ON PURPOSE.
terisa, that made no sense! Not funny!
WE SHOULD ALL CALL JON VOIGHT "DICK", BUT ON PURPOSE.
If Angelina feels that her children are in “danger†(which I remain suspect about!) because Jon Voight was verbally abusive to her when she was a child, this does not necessarily mean that he will act the same toward his grandchildren.
I have actually talked with SEVERAL people who changed considerably over time. Yes, they might have been abusive (i.e., physically, emotionally, verbally, spiritually) during one time in their life, (or when they were younger) but with TIME (and in most cases therapy!), they began to see the extreme error of their ways and consciously make an effort to change. What makes any of you think that Jon hasn’t in the past or is currently receiving therapy? Just because he's made past and a few more recent mistakes regarding the names of his grandchildren, doesn't mean that he doesn't love Angelina or his grandchildren and desires to be a stable presence in their lives. It's called "relapse" folks and it frequently happens to those who are working with a therapist to break free of past behaviors. Something to think about.
Another issue.......
Wouldn’t it be something if Angelina’s kids grow up one day, seek Jon Voight out, develop a very close relationship with him, and THEN dislike Angelina for not giving them the chance as young children to have a relationship with THEIR grandfather??? This may be an especially sore issue for Maddox, Zahara and Shiloh because once you are an adult you can never get those childhood years back. I know that it may sound strange, but I’ve actually seen this kind of thing happen!
Whether Angelina likes it or not, Jon Voight IS her children’s grandfather. Furthermore, she can allow her children a relationship with her father without having one with him herself. And really, UNLESS Angelina fears that her children are in danger of being abused by Jon in any way, she’s holding a grudge and this is detrimental to her emotional state as well as her future relationship with her children should they later, on their own free will, develop a relationship with Jon Voight.
But, for Angelina’s sake and her own personal well-being, it would be advantageous if she forgave her father. If Angelina isn’t already receiving it, she needs to be in therapy BECAUSE she needs to understand WHY her father is the way that he is. Fellow Bloggers, many of you fail to recognize that people are not born behaving the way that they do. They just aren’t. Could it be that Jon Voight was abusive to Angelina and her brother BECAUSE his father was abusive him? Or essentially, treated him the same way? And what if Jon Voight’s father’s father (his grandfather) was abusive toward his father? This a systemic issue and complex relationship pattern. And really, if this was in fact the case, this means that Angelina has a high likelihood of doing the same herself! No. She may not be behaving this way NOW, but the chance of her being an abusive mother are high. This is WHY she needs therapy….to more clearly understand her father, and his past actions AND herself, and her past and present actions so that she can more clearly map out her future.
i feel sorry for her father it isnt right at all what she is doing he has a right to see his grandchildren and if the homewrecker wants to act like that that is just terrible and she has a cold heart!
I'm not so concerned about what Voight mistakenly said as I am about your last comment about adopted children. Ick. Every child matters.



