so now what do you guys have to say who do think is gona be the father i garentee it is not howard k stern
Friday March 9, 2007

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The autopsy report expected to disclose the cause of Anna Nicole Smith's death has been delayed due to new evidence that has come to light.
According to the Associated Press, Broward County medical examiner Dr. Joshua Perper said the autopsy tests have been completed and were supposed to be released late this week, but the Seminole Police, who have jurisdiction over the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino where Smith died, provided him with new evidence.
Gary Bitner, a spokesman for the Seminole Tribe and its police department, said the evidence provided by the tribe was turned over promptly.
"This is not delayed evidence this is just additional evidence that has come to light during the course of the investigation," Bitner said.
Perper's secretary said the autopsy would be released in the next week or two.
Smith, 39, died on February 8 after being found unconscious in her Florida hotel.
A day later, Perper released a preliminary autopsy that showed no immediate indication of a drug overdose and no sign of major external injuries on the former Playboy Playmate and Guess model.
How do all of you accusers feel now. Stern is clear.
well reguardless of what happened to her she left her mark on everyone one way or another, either they hated her or loved her. i personally thought she was an awesome person, full of energy reguardless of what she did in her spare time.. who cares she wanted to have fun and live life to the fulliest and that she did.. if it was foul play then lets all hope that they will get whats comin to them and her and her son can rest.. WE LOVED YA GIRL!!!
Who knows what a timid, suckup character is capable of.
I've seen so many cases in the past, where spouses were bumped off for a measly 200,000. We're taking about 100 million here!!!
All I hope, is every possible lead is followed to find the truth, in both Daniel and Anna's death.
Maybe the Bahamien Courts will not tolorate a guilty person making fool of them like OJ did.
agreed with everyone else.. howard.. didn't seem all that upset that anna was dead ... and hello.. he got his hands on her estate.. jesus.. what a slime ball
There is not telling what is all on that computer. Different pharmacy's where drugs were bought , who delivered them etc . All the e-mails back and forth with incriminating statements , we will probably hear it all on court tv..
Anyone paying attention can see and know that those around Anna were enabling an addiction. It was quite apparent that anna was dependant on medication and drugs of one sort or another. So called friends should be ashamed and feel guilty that they did not intervene on her behalf in a truely positive manner that could have possibly saved her life.
I do believe that Howard is at fault in a great part in her death. I hope he is found out. I saw very little true grief about him through his whole ordeal. Every time he was on camera he had a peculiar little smirk I think he is just in it for the cash becasue his meal ticket is gone. There is always someone watching, things in the daark and behind closed doors will eventually come out.
well yeah and the fact that dorothy's husband shot her with a shotgun and howard has not been charged with anything or been shown to be the one controlling her, besides from those who had nothing to do with anna for years and had never really met howard. or the fact that anna was an strong willed adult when she met howard, while dorothy was an impressionable teenager when she met her abuser. yeah the parallels are amazing.
I really don't have much patience for this crap, and I feel the whole thing is becoming a total joke, a la the saga(Blech!) of O.J. Simpson during his criminal media circus trial in 1995, and eventually, this whole thing will fade away, but I guess it won't fade away anytime soon.
Atrocious is how I describe this whole mess.
There is something very Dorothy Stratten, Death of a cover girl here in Howard K Stern. Her boyfriend and manager was almost like Howard in regards to him alienating Past friends and family and wanting her all to himself and when she started to pull away from him , he coudnt take it and he killed her. It is obsessive behaviour. The two stories almost paralell each other, except Dorothy Stratten was a beautiful mind too.
1. Cutting back medications or keeping them the same depends on each patient and their needs. A regular dosage of a medication is not going to kill a person, particularly when a person has been on those medications for awhile and they have built up a tolerance. It can cause more harm than good to cut back some medications in some patients, including antidepressants and pain medication.
2. Interactions are not guaranteed to happen. Most likely 99 people will be fine while 1 would suffer from an interaction. But even when there is a .001 chance patients must be told of the possibilities. Because of the unlikely nature of interactions, it would hardly be a reliable way to murder someone.
when I went to the ER last year with fever/food poisoning, they did reduce a dose (of a prior medication) temporarily
all of that is moot seeing as how every single person has said it was anna who did not want to go to the hospital. methadone cut back? interesting seeing as how similar meds were not cut back in many cases i have seen which includes morphine. methadone is also a cough suppressant so to take her off of that would only mean putting her on something else. antidepressants? never seen those cut back either, even when on several in combination. and yes, in what i have seen i refer to high fevers and infections, lung problems, in one case the person was on a respirator after a surgery because of their breathing not being as strong as the doctors would have liked. they still received all their meds, nothing lowered. and this was in a top rated hospital with top rated doctors who assured us about the medication schedule.
it depends on the type of medication they have been taking before the fever/illness. Some are continued at same dose, some are reduced for the time of the fever. It also depends on how high the fever is. If you are getting close to very high fever, they def would cut back some types of antidepressants/methadone. Blood pressure/heart med they prob would not reduce.
But in either case, it doesn't really change the line of my argument, that he didn't get her proper medical care or even emergency care, and that he can use the drug interaction as a "method", since I'm saying that it was primarily the drug interaction (not the fever) that triggered the death.
chantal, if you go into the hospital with a fever while you are on regularly prescribed medications that you must take daily, you get hose meds in the hospital too, they do not quit giving them to you. i've seen family members firsthand with similar conditions and worse off actually who are on a multitude of prescriptions receive all their meds while in the hospital. in fact, the doctors where sure to ask for them so they could continue to give them. those meds included sleeping pills, pain medications, heart medications, blood pressure meds. i have seen this on more than one occasion. prescribed drugs are to treat, they do not stop treating because you are ill unless it is the drug itself making one ill. taking one off a needed med would often only make one sicker.
*toxicology
anon 3:36: an interaction is Not just that - an interaction - if you intentionally try to use it/try to cause it in order to kill someone. (He obviously couldn't use any other types of drugs because most of them would show up in the toxigology). We don't know what medication she was taking specifically. Assuming that it was a combination of antidepressants, methadone, and pain medication - her regular dosis of each of them should have been reduced when she fell ill with 105 fever/she should have been taken to the ER. So, my theory is that Stern saw an "opportunity" there - he said himself that he was usually the one administering the medication to her - therefor if he continues to administer her regular dosis of each of her regular medication to her while she has (or even shortly after) 105 fever with the "hope" that a drug interaction will occur - it is not the fever alone that killed her, but a combination of the fever and the induced drug interaction. It would be incorrect to say that her illness/her fever alone killed her, in that situation. Therefor, if they can show the intent part with some corroborating evidence (eg, an email saying that she was growing suspicious of Stern about him doing something to Daniel etc) - her regular dosis of each of her medications was used as a means to kill her by intentionally administering them to her at a time when her system could not handle it. Not a lot of people die from the fever alone, esp when taken to an ER & given supportive therapy. However, the lack of treatment for her fever & the drug interaction would prob be the factor that pushes someone 'over the edge' - therefor I attribute the cause more to the drug interaction (& no ER) rather than to the illness itself. (And, besides I think she had begun to recover from the fever already, but I'm not sure about that detail).
About the part you mentioned about the doctor's responsibility: I agree that it would normally be up to the doctor to adjust the dosis etc. - however since she was not taken to the ER, and from all we know they didn't even call a doctor - instead her shady nurse was "icing her down" - how can it be the doctor's responsibility if he/she was never informed? I do think the nurse should lose her right to practise.
Anyways, that's my theory about how he could have done it. I'm sure he could have used a different "method", and there are certainly other possibilties he could have pursued. But, I do think that Stern was involved in her and Daniel's deaths.
how so 2:18? how do you know this and the police don't? please share your inside info.
howard killed anna and daniel point blank peroid.
chantel, in your first post you implied REGULAR dosages, nothing extra. NO that is NOT murder. simple. any interactions that arise are just that, interactions. if someone continues to take their regular medication AS IT IS PRESCRIBED there is nothing murderous about that. all her medication was prescribed. any potential interactions are the responsiblity of the DOCTOR first and foremost. your second analogy makes zero sense if you are talking that her REGULAR medications killed her because of her illness.
Why hasn't Howard taken the paternity test and put the rumors of Birkhead being the father to rest? It's a little strange. It takes less than a minute to get swabbed for the test.
Rest in Peace??? Oh Paleessee!
There is something VERY Scott Peterson about Howard K. Stern. I can't put my finger on it but it's there.
Innocent until proven guilty. Howard, hang in there and keep doing just what you are doing. Funny how everyone is turning on Howards family, Moe and his wife and his Attorneys. Neither of these people are squirming. You all are doing it for them. They don't have to say anymore than thay have already. Face it,you are all ticked off because you want to know more and it is not going fast enough for you. He has not been charged with anything. He is being reserved and patient. When he is required by the law he will speak. His eulogy was his voice and Anna's. He said " we lived it ". It's true they lived it. What you or anyone else have is from the news , outside their door. They knew it all. Everything else is speculations and dreamed up scenarios.
Innocent until proven guilty. Howard, hang in there and keep doing just what you are doing. Funny how everyone is turning on Howards family, Moe and his wife and his Attorneys. Neither of these people are squirming. You all are doing it for them. They don't have to say anymore than thay have already. Face it,you are all ticked off because you want to know more and it is not going fast enough for you. He has not been charged with anything. He is being reserved and patient. When he is required by the law he will speak. His eulogy was his voice and Anna's. He said " we lived it ". It's true they lived it. What you or anyone else have is from the news , outside their door. They knew it all. Everything else is speculations and dreamed up scenarios.
11:47, responding to your reply to my post: are you kidding with that analogy? it goes more like... if someone is bleeding internally already...and you give them say a mixture of antibiotics and a shot of alcohol and and IV anti-clotting agent (instead of getting them to the ER immediately)... then you still don't think that's foul play??
4:16 AM Anonymous It was also reported last night On nancy Grace that there were no lifr Ins. policies for Daniel and there were NONE for Anna.
4:21 AM And where did you hear that? Like everything else before an Attorney is dibarred there is a hearing to see if any wrong doing has been done. Havent heard of any hearings.
9:42 AM frannie Even id a policy pops up an Insurance Co. is not going to pay out for a suspicious death if the benificiary is the one suspected. Also most times they dont pay out for suicide if that is deemed the cause of death.
10:29 AM Anonymous2 Wasnt Daniel taking prescription medication for depression? Wasnt he also in the hospital a week before going to the Bahmamas for a bad back(pain med)?
9:50 AM Anonymous It was brought up on Nancy Grace about the PI last night and Tony Potts also said its the first he has heard of it. Now he has been investigating this story for some time now dont you think he would have heard something if there was any truth in it.
10:04 AM Guesswho Have you seen the recent oictures of the two of them together? The Hard rock, holding hands yea she looked like she wanted to barf....
10:37 AM Anonymous2 Everyone is blaming Howard for not calling an ambulance......Think about it you had TWO medical professionals in the room and they didnt call. I dont want to hear Howard told them not too, because if your in the medical field you take an oath and they should be stripped of their nursing license for that alone.
Funny because when my Mother had a temp of 105* and could not hardly move we had to call an ambulance and all of Annas friends let her die , not even a call to the hospital .. oh yeah ! They sure did love her .. Are you getting nervous yet coward Howard....???
Why in the hell should the Mother rest in piece for that baby is not resting for she has no mother or Father . Hey this is to coward Howards attorney , turn that baby over to the right people so they can do the DNA. Now you got your fifteen minutes of fame again yesterday .. a lot of people are not going to like you either after this is all over with so hope you makes lots of money defending a worthless bastard like Sterns is ..
Hey Howard did you take some drugs to sleep last night ?? You sure gave enough to Anna to make her sleep ! Permanently....



